additional info by Keith McManus ” I visited Mike Oxtoby many times and on one occasion Mike had some seeds from F.perscandens which he gave me to germinate after scarification in a fridge for 3months I ended up with a plant which I called Little Orphan Annie, the reason for the name? nobody liked it apart from Arthur Tickner who wanted to try it. The information on Fuchsiafinder is wrong. Denticulata was not part of its generics It should read Beilby/Oxtoby/ McManus. Mr. Tickner played no part in its raising, he only registered the plant.” article in BFS Annual1999 p48 generally confirms Mr Mcmanus’ story. this article confirms your story. 2 remarks though : 1) article states F. denticulata was involved 2) AFS registration and article have same parentage but the other way around. Keith McManus’ records of the seedling show yet another parentage “but my records show Seeds Mike Oxtoby F excortica x Fx perscandens October 1996”